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Poster: binderc Date: Apr 20, 2009 2:04pm
Forum: etree Subject: attach images to your tapings!

Hi there,<BR><BR>We want to encourage all of you to attach any image files you may have to the live shows you upload. A good photo of a band playing can really enhance an item; although the recordings are certainly the most important part, it's always fun to see the band playing.<BR><BR>Here are some examples of items that are rounded out with interesting images:<BR><BR>A Trampled by Turtles show with images from the show attached: <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/tbt2009-01-28.at4041.flac16" target="_blank">http://www.archive.org/details/tbt2009-01-28.at4041.flac16</a><BR><BR>A Mountain Goats show with a photo of John Darnielle attached: <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/tmg2009-04-02.ca11" target="_blank">http://www.archive.org/details/tmg2009-04-02.ca11</a><BR><BR>A Yonder Mountain String Band show with a photo of the ticket stub attached: <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/ymsb2008-10-18.flac16.aud" target="_blank">http://www.archive.org/details/ymsb2008-10-18.flac16.aud</a><BR><BR>A John Mayer show with a photo of the cover of the CD which was made from the show: <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/jmayer2008-08-25.tapergeek.flac" target="_blank">http://www.archive.org/details/jmayer2008-08-25.tapergeek.flac</a><BR><BR>Please add photos you may have to update your shows and make the Live Music Archive that much more exciting :)<BR><BR>Thanks for all you do to contribute to archive.org!<BR><BR>Best,<BR>Cara<BR>

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Poster: xtifr Date: Apr 20, 2009 2:15pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: attach images to your tapings!

Keep in mind: if you just dump in a bunch of random large images, the archive will choose the first one (alphabetically), and send <em>the entire image</em> to everyone who browses the details page for that show, along with <em>instructions to your browser to scale it down to a thumbnail</em> (which makes the download of the entire image extremely pointless).<BR><BR>The alphabetical part can be a problem because "back" sorts before "front", so if you include a front cover and back cover, the back cover is, more often than not, what gets displayed. Usually not what you want. Example here: <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/rad1990-02-24.shnf" target="_blank">http://www.archive.org/details/rad1990-02-24.shnf</a><BR><BR>The send-the-whole-file part is a major problem for people who may be browsing the archive with mobile devices and pay by the kilobyte. Just <em>looking at the details page</em> of <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/tbt2009-01-28.at4041.flac16" target="_blank">http://www.archive.org/details/tbt2009-01-28.at4041.flac16</a> (for example) <em>will</em> result in the download of a <em>nearly six megabytes</em>, all just to provide a little 160 pixel-wide thumbnail! This is extremely wasteful and expensive to the poor folks who just want to review the available shows for later downloading!<BR><BR>I agree that pictures are nice, but it would be even nicer if the Archive maintainers could improve their software to be a little more friendly before calling for a general upload of images. Making a local, pre-scaled thumbnail when generating derivatives would be a bare minimum, IMO!<BR><BR>And for those who would like to upload images, but don't want to punish people who innocently browse the archive with their phones or whatnot, consider doing something like I did with this show: <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/rad1984-03-03.shnf" target="_blank">http://www.archive.org/details/rad1984-03-03.shnf</a> -- I made a pre-scaled thumbnail image (only 19k) and named it "archive_image.jpg" so it would sort alphabetically before the cover images.

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Poster: morst Date: Apr 29, 2009 10:55pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: attach images to your tapings!

I just rename the image I want to have featured starting with "A1-" and that makes it alphabetize to the top. I try not to make 'em too huge, but if the archive would automatically derive a thumbnail, that would be a nice touch. My favorite images to use are usually posters, handbills, tickets, photos of the venues' marquee, or on-stage pictures, though sometimes I do something different, like an animated gif.<BR><BR>ps - note that upper and lower case are handled separately by the archive.org servers.